A man who favors independent fundamental Baptist churches, screen name “Mr. Wise Christian”, typed: “Anyone who says that the King James Bible, including the book of Genesis, is mythology, is not a Christian. Christian means you believe that every single word of the Bible is true.”
Someone responded: “I strongly disagree in the idea of a God-authored book, and certainly view some of the stories as mythology. Christian means you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and follow His teaching. He never spoke of needing to believe everything in the Bible.” I now intertwine their retorts and responses:
MWC: “WRONG. Jesus is the word of God, fully man, fully God. The Bible is the word of God, fully man, fully God. The words of the Bible are the spirit of God.” RES: “Then show where the Bible clearly claims such things about itself in the text, and/or which earliest churchman claimed what you claim about the Bible. If you cannot, your claim is rubbish.”
{MWC: “Jesus said, if you believe the OT you believe in Him. But if you don’t believe the scriptures, you don’t believe in Him, you are lying to yourself. [Quotes John 5, verses 39 & 46]: ‘Search the scriptures: for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of Me. Had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed Me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe My words?’ ” >>>
RES: “Three reasons why this doesn’t apply to me: 1) Jesus was speaking to the Jews, who rejected Him, while I accept Him. 2) While they failed to see that the OT contained implications that foreshadowed Jesus, I embrace those parts (although I recognize that they are largely couched in mythology). 3) I can live without the OT since I have both NT scripture and the Church, while they had neither.”}
MWC: “There is a unified Bible. It is the Textus Receptus, Majority Text. This majority text is the King James Bible.” RES: “NO, the Textus Receptus or Majority Text is only the Greek text underlying KJV NT Christian Scripture (Matthew-Revelation). I have a full copy on my bookshelf. The underlying text for the KJV’s OT is the Hebrew Masoretic text, which was separate and apart from NT scripture for 1,200 years!”
MWC: “If you don’t believe in every word, you don’t believe in Jesus. If you say you don’t believe in the whole Bible, you simply pick and choose what your wicked heart wants to believe and those only. Your faith is in yourself, not the Word of God or Jesus. You were never born again.” RES: “The King James Bible originally contained the books of Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, Baruch, and 1-2 Maccabees. And Esther had 16 chapters, not the later chop job. It was authorized with those texts in place. So, if you don’t believe in them, and what you said is true, then everything you said applies to yourself.
MWC: ” [Quotes John 1:1, John 1:14, and John 3:3 KJV].” RES: “I have read these texts and completely agree. And…………….?” MWC: “You take the Bible and pretend you believe it.” RES: “No, I pretend nothing. Zero evidence for your claim.”
MWC: “You’re a sinner. You deserve to go to hellfire for your sins, it’s what you deserve. Jesus which is the word of God died for your sins. Put your faith in the word of God and you will receive the free gift of eternal life.” RES: “This is true for everybody on the planet. So, your point is………………?”
MWC: “There is no Jesus without the Bible.” RES: “I disagree. Jesus can still save those who have never heard via grace. And we have the additional and intrinsic source of the early Church writings, which also testify of Jesus. And your idea is DANGEROUS since those who would accept Jesus yet cannot accept what you say about the Bible could be turned away. This paper-God idea CANNOT stand up to logical debate.”
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